How to Get a Popular Interview Out of Sam Harris

Ruben Ruben: Sam Harris is not really traditional, at least American style political conservative. He's more of a heterodox liberal, maybe the fashion, you might describe yourself, maybe the way I describe him. And this all sort of ends itself with Dave leaving a network that he thought wasn't doing what it should be and starting his own by starting the ribbon court as an interview show. The clincher of that narrative, Dave sells of this debate with Cenk Wiger,. who went badly and then this thrashing out again, Harris on real time.