i would argue theistic, because in our experience, ideas don't exist disembodied. They exist in minds. So if we'reif if they're really saying that the universe came out of math, then i think volenkin is right in his a. And iwas going t one lasting what? One last challenge here. This is getting heavy. Sometimes i feel like marty mc fly and back to the future. English stock. All righte and i, i maybei, i, maybe we should do one last thing, cause we've been addin an hour. In forty five i might be wearing you out. But how does that square with your you're making my

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