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#77 Justin Sung - Memory Researcher Says Anki Won't Make You Fluent

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Learning Through Onkey

i would suggest that if there are words that are not coming up high enough in a normal conversation, we should be thinking about ways of interleaving our dialogue to give ourselves opportunities to have that come up more frequently. i don't know if you've ever talked to anyone about the idea of ly comprehensible imput and comprehensible output. Hypothesis like those int very dominant kind of themes in in learning. And it increase these things called a ah alort, like learning events, a, where it basically means that they are gaining ground in their learning.

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Alhow people do with ankey, which is, like, they try to learn through onkey, like onke is the method that they used to learn. But actually, i think it's more effective to use onkey to, like, like you said, just remember to recall the things that you have trouble like recalling, or things that maybe come up less often and in the natural frequency of
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of e coation. I mean, i would actually suggest that if there are words that are not coming up high enough in a normal conversation, that that's something that, rather than putting that into anke to begin with, we should be thinking about ways of interleaving our dialogue to give ourselves opportunities to have that come up more frequently. So, ye, i don't know if, if you've ever talked to anyone about, or like learng about the idea of ly comprehensible imput and comprehensible output. Hypothesis like those int very dominant kind of themes in in learning. And the combination of i comprehensible input plus output, and this idea of what' called pushed output, which is essentially, i do't kow again you've heard of pushed output, but it's just the idea that instead of just getting someone to say something, you actually push them to to output it in ways that they are uncomfortable with. And it makes them, you know, find gaps. And it increase these things called a ah alort, like learning events, a, where it basically means that they are gaining ground in their learning. So if you think about comprehensible import, comprehensible output and in having actually the push in retrievable, very few of those things are ticked when you start with anke and you finish with a and there's not a whole lot going on. Most people will just add on like practice and dialogue and speaking, just kind of sprinkled over the top of it. But ii really should be completely flipped the other way round. Like people that have three 400 a cards in the anke flash card base, they should really be cutting that down to like, 50 in 60 in beyond a hundred really, if they're all a hundred, like, no, none who can do that. Who can learn a hundred new words through just pure repetition and actually hold on to that, like, after a month. If you don't practise it, like every single day, just like, you're slipping on that vocabulary, just like by the second.

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