Is That Where I Got My Call?

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"To see him get up and work his fingers to the bone on someone else's property and be called boy is where I got my you know that nurtured my calling," he says. "I thought my grandmother was made of gold and she baked the best biscuits ... imagine the pain and the suffering that they endured." He adds: "They've worked and they blend for me to be here and I will not let them down the next generation will have it easier"

Greg interviews Dr. Dean Helen Easterling Williams, Pepperdine University Graduate School of Education and Psychology. In an upfront and candid conversation, Greg and Dean Williams explore the difference in their experiences as academics, leaders, and human beings. Dean Williams' perspective as a black woman, academic, and leader on everything going on in America, and how to most effectively move forward and make change, is a conversation you will not want to miss.

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