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Special guest Ken Kocienda, author of Creative Selection, joins the show to talk about his years at Apple and the creation of the original iPhone.

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Links:

• Up Spell — Ken’s iOS word game.
• “Wallaby” iPhone prototype hardware.
• Steve Jobs’s quote on the wall outside Town Hall at Infinite Loop: “If you do something and it turns out pretty good, then you should go do something else wonderful, not dwell on for it too long. Just figure out what’s next.”
• Kim Scott’s books: Radical Candor and Just Work.
• DF’s 15-year anniversary post, with word counts.
• Stephen King’s On Writing.
• Andy Hertzfeld’s history of the original Mac:
  • Folklore.org
  • Revolution in the Valley
• Humane — The totally secret startup where Ken is now working.
• Job openings at Humane.

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.