pathfinder, community curator and story teller me a bird song. She is fiercely focused on re imagining the notion of family as a more sive and inclusive community. Her public conversations like the new america series centring black women as agents change. And right now, we all need people in our lives who feel like family as we move into this next season. So let's hear a bit of our conversation with me. A bird song. Eh, thank you.

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