The Joy of Having Kids

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"He was a pusher a striver, and he was always trying to go up, up, up," Jones says of his son. "That can be tragic, cause you can miss the wonderfulness of the world that a slower, more observant, more present person can be an." He adds: "Even when my kids are not around, i'm like, o, a helicopter".

Ryan talks about how infectious kids excitement can be and how adults can apply it to their lives.

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