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The Legacy of Jacinda Ardern

Ruben Navarrette: I think the legacy will be actually complex let's start with foreign policy. There was already a trend line towards slightly no towards closer ties between New Zealand and the US that preceded Jacinda Ardern through the national government. He says climate change was a big part of her kind of foreign policy approach but she also talked about wanting to keep ties with the whitest array of partners. She showed an outpouring of emotion and empathy that most world leaders cannot, he says.Navarrette: We haven't had that populist backlash to a really strong degree in New Zealand but it puts pressure on the economy.

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