What's the Bami of Your Average Person?

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I think what people o when they accuse somebody of being uncivilized, i think they are accusing them of being like brutes about their violence. But it's all that's also just like a wedro, you know, we have drones to do our killing. You guys are doing stabbing people and beheading themwe're more civilized, ike. We're just likein a bunker and a, like playing plaingjoisingly an x box gameye, my measure, which actually think is a good measure, is like, what do you think of andrey tarkovsky and his films?

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