I really think we overstate how important objective truth is for many people. A lot of people don't care about that distinction at all. People become attached to certain beliefs value certain cultural poses. These things seem small from a cosmic perspective and they are They're nevertheless the things that anchor our identities and our social lives. That's the stuff that drives us and it's beyond truth and falsehood. It's beyond facts and opinions It's deeper than that and that's the thing. I don't know how to get around. Whoa, I'm trying I'm trying that's pretty defeatist right there. You're the most optimistic person. Let me see what I can do with what you