The Dangers of State Welfare in the UK

There's a lot of these spontaneous societal things especially in the UK that are co-opted by the state and then sold back to us. Can you talk about the danger of that kind of state maybe dangers are on word but there can be a state capture of mutual aid efforts which sometimes one might argue always like strip them of what the essence of what they are is that fair to say? I mean so state welfare changes the relationships that people have uh yeah to those institutions  in one sense it it alleviates the burden of of running those Institutions.