The Importance of Conversations With People

There's a lot of people that help you through your career. Peter Swab, my first three years would sit down and he realized that I missed home and I was going back so he'd sit down and go, okay, did you have beers this weekend? What did you eat? And then there was a massive change when Alex, the Clarkson and Andrew Russell came into the football club and Andrew Russell's big one was no soft drink. If you had a can of soft drink, your skin folds are high and you had bacon, you'll rip ya. It's no good for ya. So those little kind of things, I remember the year that I hurt my knee in 212,