I was inspired by the world's leading digital platforms and was doing my best to say, could Starbucks build a digital platform as well? And what was the relationship with Howard on this? From a visionary standpoint, it was 2008, so the economy is struggling, everyone's doing bad. Everyone wanted to be a platform company. Everybody wants to be a tech platform, but it's a coffee company.

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