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Masha Gessen and Joshua Yaffa on the Escalation of Violence in Ukraine

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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How Do This End? Is There Any Way to Even Know?

How do this ends? Is there any way to even know? I'm afraid not. Like masha just said, i don't see ukrane capitulating. It may be militarily defeated in the sense that at a certain point its regular army may be overwhelmed by the military might of russian armed forces. But like masha just says, i don’t see how that translates really ever into a political solution. What you'd be left with is a kind of northern ireland scenario but absolutelyjust incredible steroids onn incredible and really terrifying steroids.

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