Debate on Trump's Conviction and Election Win

Speaker 2
All right, let's move on to two very quick things. I want to get a quick reaction from one of you to two things. One Tommy is Trump going to get convicted and will he win the election? Whatever happens.
Speaker 1
So I believe if there's any shred of democracy in a constitutionality left in my country, I don't believe he will be convicted. Even if he is, it's going to be overturned on appeal. This whole thing is a sham. It's a crime-less crime to begin with. And I do believe that if it is between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, Donald Trump will win the election in November. I still don't think Joe is gonna be the nominee. I think it's gonna be Gavin Newsom. But if it is Joe versus Trump, I'm pretty confident Trump is going to win.
Speaker 2
Okay. Esther, is he gonna get convicted? I don't think he'll get convicted. I don't think the cases are strong enough. But I... And what do you win? I'm slightly convinced that he will win. I mean, for me, the math still isn't adding up, but I don't think... Well, he's ahead in almost every swing swing, no. Yes, but I think two weeks before the election is when you can really gauge how people feel. I think the one's out is not
Speaker 1
enough. All right, James. I think the question, will Trump be convicted for a crime? And will he win the election? Is a terrifying question. Yeah, but those two questions should not ever be next to each other. They are. I can't understand how that's happened. Can you answer the question? Well, I can't because I don't understand the American legal system at all. I would hope that he was arrested for a lot of the things that were incredibly wrong, including inciting an actual riot on the capitol.
Speaker 2
OK, well, thank you for your constructive thoughts. No worries. Francesca, will Trump be convicted? And either way, will he win the election?
Speaker 1
Ooh, I like this. He will be convicted because the evidence is glaring. And, you know, we all know that David Pekker refused to pay his bills anymore. And so Trump was like, damn it, now I've got to do financial crimes to pay off this woman I slept with. So that's
Speaker 2
what happened.

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