I would not say that the lits who governed the pandem fali. were flawless, or that they should not be subject to criticism. But i am expressing a certain sympathy for the scepticism that the public has of experts. I think there's a broader point that you're making that is very much in line with the critique i offer in the tyranny of merit which has to do with technocratic experts. We have assumed wrongly, that virtue in governing, excellence or merit in governing, is largely to be defined in terms of technocratic expertis. And this, i think, is one of the defects of maritocracy that we've seen in recent decades with regard to governing.

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