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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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Thinking in Models in Political Journalism

"I always think that there's a tendency for political pundits. They see something happening in their 20s and 30s and they get very stuck on how things were then," he says. "If you want to improve the world, you need to understand how the world actually works ... You need to understand your own contribution to those things."

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