Timothy Stanley: I started listening to the waking up app. It's probably the most, it's the best meditation app for people that aren't looking to necessarily just check a box but actually want to go a little bit deeper. And Henry's voice, he has this malefluous, dulcich tones. He's the kind of guy. If he read you the, as Neil Gaiman did once, the cheesecake factory menu, he'd be like, Oh, I can listen to this all day. That was a turning point for me.

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