Outro

In 2015, the American lawyer Bryan Stevenson was cast away by Kirsty Young.

Bryan is the founder and executive director of the Equal Justice Initiative, a private, not-for-profit organisation in the US working on death penalty cases, prison and sentencing reform, and issues of race and poverty.

He spoke to Kirsty about racism in the American criminal justice system.

You can listen to the full episode on BBC Sounds.