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Anything off highway has a very, very narrow odd or a very narrow definition of what is acceptable. So in the example, like a 400 ton truck at a mine, if drove over your tesla, a would not feel a crunch and would not hear any noise that emanated from that tessla. And as a result, if they see a tessla near their path of travel, there's one answer, which has come to a stop. Well, ok, well we should say that the two people joining us to day ar actually to repeat, repeat a tonic.

With the AV sector entering another round of turmoil, we are joined by two founders who lost their startups during previous periods of turmoil but have come back to the driving automation space. Stefan Seltz-Axmacher, who previously appeared on The Autonocast following the failure of Starsky Robotics is back to discuss Polymath Robotics, his new "plug and play" off-road autonomy company. He is joined by Josh Hartung, formerly of Polysync and now the founder of Sygnal, which is Polymath's partner on the hardware side. Together they provide unique perspective on the ever-evolving driving automation space.