I think I found a lot of space in myself to have conversations with people where we can agree to disagree and we can have very civil kind insightful conversations even if we're coming out on opposite sides. My approach is not to argue with anyone, not to try to persuade anyone, but just trying to listen and understand what what I'm hearing. It's about translating this work into a rural conservative context. Those conversations require a different dialect in in rural communities like mine.

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