I'm Not a Musician, but I Need Another Lesson

I was thinking about, I wanted to mention first that you have your own podcast. And what's nice about it is that you get these people, it's two musicians talking and screwing around in a very loose atmosphere. You guys were kind of a big inspiration because over the pandemic, I just hearing you guys laugh really lit me up. It felt really good. But then I realized, oh, right, I'm not a musician. Except you are. Well, not really, but does it ever expand out to non-musicians? If they're playing music with me, I think my only, my way into is there's so many podcasts, of course.