The is the first instalment of a two-part discussion. For this episode, Jon Ronson – the journalist, author, and filmmaker – dives into the world of conspiracies and the culture wars. They’re themes that form the bedrock of his hugely successful podcast and BBC Radio 4 series, Things Fell Apart. The series takes Ronson's longstanding interest in post-truth narratives to new places with Ronson exploring the forces at play shaping ideas ranging from anti-vaccine movements to gender politics. Never before have the culture wars – which can sometimes appear unreal and distant – felt more alarming and real-world. This is a recording of Intelligence Squared's recent live event at London's Union Chapel and joining Ronson onstage was Jenny Kleeman, the documentary filmmaker, journalist and author of books such as her latest, The Price of Life.

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