In the global south, there is a desire to have some of the things that people in the West have already had. I'm just remembering a conversation I had with a woman called Jumuna who was in the coal belt in Arissa and she said she doesn't have electricity. She lives in a makeshift slum, but she wants electricity. But at the same time, you've got leaders gathering at COPS saying, we don't want you to do that. And they are quite right to be angry. There is nothing natural about the state of affairs we've got in the world today.
As Earth Day approaches, we revisit a compelling conversation from 2021 asking which factors are really responsible for the climate emergency and who might be able to prevent it? Dr Anne Karpf is a writer and sociologist whose book, How Women Can Save the Planet, looks to analyse some of these questions in more granular detail. The BBC's South Asia correspondent Rajini Vaidyanathan joins Karpf to learn more.
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