I did a two hour special with Dateline NBC with him as the host in which we replicated classic psych experiments. We reconstructed Milgram shock experiments and we got five of our seven subjects to go, you know, all the way up to the top shocks you could go. But that other show he had, they got NBC got sued for this because then they went off the air Because there's a certain amount of entrapment to get these guys to come over to somebody's apartment. One of them was a judge and I mean, a prominent, I forget his name, but prominent judge and he went home and killed himself. See, that's an interesting thing because I think we want

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