The first day of visa wasn't called visa at the time, but it was september eighteenth, 19 58. What happened was that there was this mid level managera bank of america, joe williams, who up with this idea for the bank ameri card. And he said, ok, let's just go mail 60 thousand cards to pretty much everybody in fresno. So i think the first merchant that they signed up was florsheim shoes, which is still round to day. They got al the merchants signed up and gave everybody a card. There wasn't interchange, but they said, it's bank ofAmericas talking to both sides. I think

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