This week's guest is Manuel Pais, one of the authors of the book Team Topologies. Many episodes here focus on platform teams and enablement work so I thought to myself who better to have on our show than someone who's written the defining book around these topics? Manuel and I start our conversation with the definition of platform and enabling teams and what their key differences are. We then talk about how to actually do enabling work and how to think about a team's activities in terms of both long-term strategy and short-term execution. And we wrap up by discussing cognitive load, how to measure it, and where platform engineering is headed in the future.

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