Inequality of Outcome Is the Norm, Not the Exception

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There are lots of inequalities in our society. In fact, thereare more inequalities than there are equalities between ethnic groups. The only way to overcome thekind of racial disparities fed vis history has led to is to discriminate on the basis of race. If we insist on race blindes, we essentially, as the critics claim, condemn ourselves to living in a society in which outcomes for different groups are going to continue to be grosly unequal for a long time.

Coleman Hughes is the host of Conversations with Coleman. Racialized, his first book, is forthcoming from Penguin Random House.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Coleman Hughes discuss how we can remain vigilant about racial injustice without treating others differently on account of their race; whether reparations for slavery are justified in theory and workable in practice; and how we should measure progress on race.

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