Teres guest, armond dangor is the perfect person to walk you through these ideas. He's a professor of classics at oxford university and the author of the best selling book, socrates in love as well as the greeks in the new. And he also has some practical hands on experience with innovation in the world of business after being part of his own family's manufacturing business before getting into academia. So without further ado, let's get into it. Please enjoy this conversation with armon dango.

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