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#88: Frederic Leroy (@fleroy1974) - Debunking The Fallacies About Red Meat

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Are You Generally Optimistic or Pessimistic?

Loli: I'm pessimistic in a way that we see very strong forces that are everything is going faste and stronger. A, the very strong pushes for all sorts of industrialized, patenter, corporate food from factories that are displacing otheir foods. And it's not going to be easy. Change will come bottom up. Now, from grass roots movements. There you see communities that are emerging. They're stepping out of the old paradise and going into they discover completely new waysof existing almost - and they forge communities. Loli: The things visible, human health, soil health, animal health, those visible aspects are tangible. People understand it is the only thing that makes

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