The Usability Issues in Learning Products

In online learning in an institution like Penn State you can have navigation issues or different interfaces within your single course design which creates minebelves for a student. I think it's what Andrew is talking about using more brain power figuring out the environment, the landscape or do I have to do to get to the actual learning objectives. So we can talk both like user experience with a single course then since but also kind of what we're doing to our students across the entire education experience that they're encountering as well.