Do You Think the Debt Ceiling Will Hit the Fan?

I think, ultimately, you need to wait until we get into the stage where actually there is going to be a material impact. I always look at the bill market to see if there's any spikes in certain, certain maturities we're not seeing yet. We were happy to buy 10-year treasury back in 2011 when there wasn't much yield on the 10-year. And this time, there is. The flight equality will favor those bonds. You know where there hasn't been any yield and hasn't been for several decades is Japan. So I think what we've learned from the Bank of Japan over the last couple of months or so is, I think we're going to