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Matthew Flisfeder - Algorithmic Desire

Machinic Unconscious Happy Hour

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The Lathouse - You Don't Hate the Player Hit the Game

Matthew Koop says he's fascinated by the way capital works. Capital is always one step ahead of our desire because it's feeding our desire and when you're attaching this to something like a global communications network and algorithms etc then that becomes even a further barrier we have to break through. Capitalism can always sort of develop these new axiomatics to capture your revolutionary desire and coordinate off and prevent it from spilling over into this social field so i think all change is going to have to take place at the political level to change the law if you want to put it that way right. He thinks collective action and class struggle is this process of determining what are the normswhat are the laws what are the

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there's forms of power that are interpolating us out of this machinic assemblage that we have to negate so we can return back to this flat you know to with the dalanda turn you know flat ontology that we are emerging out of out of the machine we become subjects and we should negate that power and go back into the flat versions now the problem i have with that i guess is that i don't think that we can we are included into the assemblage of the machine before we have already emerged as subjects of desire so i think that you know and there is you know the the aspect of the social in the symbolic order again which is always fissured by antagonism contradiction and lack i think that that's an aspect of how we are interpolated into subjects but subject for me here is still very much an ethical and a radical characterization that is not a point of emergence out of the bigger machine but it's something that you arrive at once you grasp the contradiction that exists within the social symbolic order itself so a lot of this is a way to not try to diminish that dimension of subjectivity as an ethical and an emancipatory character and part of that means for me that becoming subject before you can enter into what those in Guaetari called machinican slavement we have to already be established as desiring subjects i think that there's a priority to being interpolated as desiring subject before we can enter into the the assemblage form of machinican slavement very much in the way that algorithmic logic on platform social media platforms for instance operate that we're not integrated into it until we're already existing as desiring subjects with a certain relation to our enjoyment and again i don't know if that contrasts with other views of de la zinguatari and i'm certainly open to conversation about it
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