i made no secret about that when i was working on the book. And i didn't, i was never threatened by a, by peter or anybody who was purporting to represent him. But it's not a great situation when we've created a playbook and a permission structure by which any billionaire, a can intimidate a, you know, free media.
First, Jason covers Coinbase's announcement of their new NFT platform (2:06). Then, Bloomberg's Max Chafkin joins to discuss his book, "The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power" (19:57). It's a wide-ranging discussion about Peter's life, business, and politics as well as a debate over the way Max framed him in the book.