I think the industrial world was one of these gigantic agglomerations of humanity. I think preceding even the digital era we had reached maximum aggregation. But for sure right now we're in a moment where nations are splintering. So how do we make that world democratic and as least vicious as we can? The more you empower localities, the cantons, he says somewhere in the book, in one possible future every democracy is Switzerland. That's not a particularly attractive model to me personally, but it is a model.