Iver saw, right? Yea. But he also doesn't know definitively what he saw. That's the point that i'm trying to make. And it's so far removed, like we just said, eye witness testimony is not the best. Even if his testimonys could cear me out, even if his testimony is considered much better than anything elsei even if he has definitively seen what he's seen he even couldn't say for certain. I can't say definitively correct. Nothing on earth can do this that we know of. This defies all laws of physics as we know it. Sure. Moka, let's keep us. Moka, no, i

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