Episode 40: What a Disgrace
Conversations with People Who Hate Me
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What Is the Next Step Forward?
"I think what has sort of happened is that i'm not the man, but i'm the attainable man," he says. "As like a liberal, woke person, i'm going to listen and take this seriously." He adds: 'If it feels like i don't, it's going to feel like a huge betrayal'
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