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Ep. 235 - Steven Zapata

The Collective Podcast

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You're Saying You Were Going Through the Motions, the Cycles

In the middle of thinking about how I was going to change things, my father died and he died by suicide actually. So that, that, I mean, it should, it should go without saying, but it's just like it completely rewrote my life. It does that for so many people,. you know, losing a loved one, having your first sort of head on collision with just how chaotic life actually is.

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