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The Importance of Making Music
The more you're around other people who are in either the same position or above or below you when it comes to experience like the more you learn that everybody's still trying to figure it out them for themselves. I think there's a lot of value and just doing things for you like so it's that balance you know like you want to release stuff you want to make sure that what you put out is something that you're proud of but also have some ephemeral meaning as well. It's really hard to quantify which is I think the third time I've used that in this interview.