Chase Jarvis On Building Your Network of ‘A-Gamers,’ Designing the Life You Want, and Fulfilling Your ‘Creative Calling’
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“Creativity is a life amplifier. It’s as fundamental to our well-being as physical fitness, proper nutrition, and mindfulness.”
-Chase Jarvis
Chase Jarvis is an award-winning artist, entrepreneur, a best-selling author, a podcast host of The Chase Jarvis live show, and one of the most influential photographers of the past 20 years, shooting ads for companies like Apple, Nike, and Red Bull to name a small few. But what brought Chase to my attention was his national best selling book, Creative Calling (an absolute must-read), which is as inspiring as it is informative on how you can both identify your own creative calling and take action on it.
In our conversation, Chase and I take a deep dive into the fundamentals of creativity and how it is innate to us as human beings, despite the fact that it isn’t well nurtured and supported in our education system. Chase shares the ways in which you can learn to push beyond the noise of society (and yourself) saying what you “should” do, and learn to hear your very own deeper creative calling. We discuss key strategies you can use to intentionally use your creative calling, as well as how to surround yourself with the right people that will support your creativity and goals along with it.
Whether you define yourself as a creative and are seeking to expand your career, are curious about how you can get in touch with your creative side in order to expand yourself personally, or even if you don’t think of yourself as having an ounce of creativity (we all do, as you’ll learn), I cannot recommend listening to my conversation with Chase enough. He is an absolute gold mine of information and I know you will love his inspiring, intelligent and creative insights as much as I did.
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Here's What You'll Learn:
- Chase Jarvis’ take on what creativity really is (it’s refreshingly different than the standard definition)
- How you can use your own “creative calling” to design your ideal life
- Creativity as a muscle (and how you can exercise it)
- How to take all of your seemingly unrelated skills and build a career
- Why Chase says no choice or experience was ever a waste (even if you think they were wrong)
- How our education system is built to prepare us for factories, not creativity
- How you can take control of your own education and build the skills you need
- What you can do specifically to find your own “creative calling”
- Why surrounding yourself with the right people is crucial to your creativity (and success)
- The networking strategy that Chase recommends to get you in the community of ‘A-players’
Useful Resources Mentioned:
The Laws of Creativity - Joey Cofone
RANGE: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World - David Epstein
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Guest Bio:
Chase Jarvis is an award-winning artist, entrepreneur, best-selling author, and one of the most influential photographers of the past 20 years. His expansive work ranges from shooting advertising campaigns for companies like Apple, Nike, and Red Bull; to working with athletes like Serena Williams and Tony Hawk, to collaborating with renowned icons like Lady Gaga and Richard Branson. As a fine artist, he’s had solo and group gallery shows in the USA, Europe, and the Middle East. In 2013 Chase contributed to the Pulitzer-Prize winning New York Times story Snowfall, and in 2014 earned an Emmy nomination for his documentary Portrait of a City. He also created Best Camera – the first photo app to share images to social networks, and is the Founder of CreativeLive, where more than 10 million students learn photography, video, design, music and business from the world’s top creators and entrepreneurs which was acquired by Fiverr - a public company listed on the New York Stock Exchange - in 2021. His recent book Creative Calling debuted as an instant National Best Seller.
He’s long been an advisor to Fortune 100 brands, and a guest at the White House, the United Nations, the Library of Congress, 10 Downing Street, Buckingham Palace, and the DIFC in Dubai. Chase lives with his wife, Kate, in Seattle, and serves as a volunteer board director for several non-profits.
Show Credits:
This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, and the show notes were prepared by Debby Germino and published by Glen McNiel.
The original music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Joe Trapanese (who is quite possibly one of the most talented composers on the face of the planet).
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