Michigan's Gubernatorial Showdown

Chuck Todd begins by surveying the electoral landscape for the midterms after six months of Trump’s presidency. He argues that gerrymandering could potentially backfire on both parties, highlights the advantages each party has heading into the midterms and why Democrats may not find a coherent message until the presidential primary produces a candidate.

Semafor reporter Dave Weigel joins Chuck for a comprehensive analysis of how dramatically American politics has shifted since Trump's first term, revealing a Democratic Party still searching for its identity after its first failed presidency since Carter. Weigel argues that both parties have fundamentally transformed over the past eight years, with Democrats struggling to move beyond the failed Obama coalition strategy while grappling with divisive issues like trans rights and immigration that have left them "walking on eggshells" and lacking coherent, united positions. The conversation explores how the country has moved rightward as a backlash to Biden, why Republicans are acting like a party that believes it can't lose, and whether Democrats' overreaction to Trump prevented them from developing substantive policy frameworks on key issues voters actually care about.

The discussion dives deep into the strategic challenges facing both parties, from the left's perceived "softness" on cultural issues to the sustainability of Trump's gains with Latino voters in states like Nevada and Texas. Weigel examines why the fight for trans rights has proven more politically costly than the gay marriage battle, how urban voters' flirtation with socialism doesn't translate beyond coastal cities, and whether rising stars like Michigan's Mike Duggan can bridge the gap between metro Detroit and rural areas. Looking ahead to 2026 and 2028, they analyze the emerging Republican primary landscape with potential matchups between J.D. Vance and Rand Paul, why so many Democrats are eyeing Iowa's Senate race despite the party's broader retreat from the state, and how the changing media landscape—from podcasts to new campaign infrastructure—will reshape how candidates connect with voters in an increasingly fragmented political environment.

Finally, he answers listeners’ questions in the “Ask Chuck” segment!

Timeline: 

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00:00 Introduction

02:45 Taking the pulse of the midterm elections after 6 months of Trump

04:15 There are only 25-30 seats up for grabs in the house

05:00 Gerrymandering could backfire for both parties

05:45 Democrats’ advantages in a midterm election

07:30 The “out” party is more motivated to vote in midterms

09:00 The Republican party is more unified than past midterms in Trump era

11:00 House Republicans are outraising Dems in most vulnerable districts

12:45 Far less unity in the Democratic party now compared to 2017

14:15 Since 90’, Democrats winning the midterms led to winning the presidency

16:30 The presidential primary may help the Democrats cohere 

19:30 Dave Weigel joins the Chuck ToddCast! 

21:30 Similarities/differences in political landscape between 2017 & 2025? 

22:45 The parties are very different compared to 8 years ago 

24:15 Democrats had their first failed presidency since Carter 

26:45 Democrats could learn the wrong lessons from a successful midterm 

29:00 Democrats tried to replicate the Obama coalition and failed 

31:00 The media and campaign infrastructure are completely different now 

32:30 Battle over trans rights has Democrats flailing 

34:30 Democrats are walking on eggshells over immigration 

35:30 Democrats don't have clear, united positions on major issues 

38:00 Voters want tight border security, but not mass deportations 

40:30 Democrats believed they could make Trump "never happen again" 

43:00 Dems overreacted to Trump, didn't have coherent immigration policy 

44:00 The country has moved right as a backlash to Biden 

45:30 Republicans acting like a party that thinks they can't lose 

48:00 The left is seen as soft, is trans rights the issue creating that perception? 

50:00 Trump has forced the conversation on immigration 

52:00 The fight for gay marriage vs fight for trans rights 

53:45 Why hasn't the gender rights fight been punted to states? 

55:15 Trump endorsed gay marriage before Hilary Clinton 

57:15 Both parties demonstrated hubris on gay marriage/gender rights 

58:30 Voters care more about immigration than trans rights 

1:00:30 Urban voters are more willing to flirt with socialism, not transferrable 

1:01:30 Will Democrats distance themselves from Mamdani? 

1:02:45 Dem socialists get dinged for cultural issues, not economics 

1:04:00 Cost of living is biggest issue in big coastal cities, not as salient in other places 

1:05:45 Michigan will be a bellwether for Democratic politics 

1:07:15 Nevada and Texas will show whether Latino swing toward Trump sustains 

1:11:00 How many Bernie voters would have come out in Michigan? 

1:14:00 Will Mike Duggan work outside of the metro Detroit area? 

1:16:30 When Trump isn't on the ballot, Democrats sweep Michigan 

1:17:45 Will lack of Republican infighting boost the party in midterms? 

1:21:00 Republicans haven't found "sweet spot" candidates in some races 

1:22:30 Ability to appear on podcasts will matter for candidates 

1:23:45 Any R's on 2028 trail besides Paul and Youngkin? 

1:25:30 A tight primary race between Vance & Paul wouldn't be surprising 

1:27:15 Why are so many Democrats interested in running for Iowa senate? 

1:30:00 Kim Reynolds not running after DeSantis endorsement 

1:31:30 Democrats surrendered Iowa and Florida 

1:33:00 Favorite state fair food?

1:36:45 Chuck's thoughts on interview with Dave Weigel 

1:37:30 Ask Chuck 

1:37:45 How were so many people duped by Trump? 

1:45:45 Why does the US give such unconditional support to Israel? 

1:54:25 Why doesn't Virginia produce politicians with a large national profile? 

2:01:15 Why can states call a redistricting session on a whim? 

2:04:45 Why wouldn't a constitutional convention be incredibly risky?