How Big Is Adobe as a Company?

Adobe is a large company by orders of magnitude. It's going to be tens of thousands of engineers in the R&D, let's say, portion of the company. Currently, our business unit, for example, has currently something like more than 1,000 engineers involved only in this platform side of things. The challenge that has always been from our users has been, how do I introduce a technology like Kotlin in a large company?