The techniques which we have learned in Advaita Vedanta, they're all like this. You remember Drik Drishavivakar? It starts with the form. And then eyes themselves become the sea and the mind is the sea. The self is in her to the body. In your sensations, focus on the breath. From the breath goes further down, slowly, slowly, stage by stage, sanaishanate. This is the meaning of Shana Yishanadi in stages. From the gross to the subtle to the causal to the atman. I am that witness, witness consciousness. So can I see that? No, you cannot see that. You