Is a Hot Dok a Sandwich?

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I have a ready diverse set of students at johns hopkins, really smart students who think of themselves as most tolerant people in the way. But when i ask them to debate about whether or not a hot dok is a sandwich, those who think that it is start to discriminate against those who think they are wrong. This is one of the reasons why it's so hard to build diverse democracies, we will always have groups. We will always be tempted to discriminate against outsiders, even if we define ourselves by our tolerance. As the wonderful american comite in tomlera once said, it is very impo thythat you love your fellow human beings. And by some people

One of the world’s most influential social psychologists, a professor of ethical leadership at NYU's Stern School of Business, and a member of Persuasion's Board of Advisors, Jonathan Haidt is the author of The Righteous Mind and, with Greg Lukianoff, co-author of The Coddling of the American Mind. Haidt recently wrote a much-read feature in The Atlantic entitled “After Babel.”

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Jonathan Haidt discuss how we can make social media less toxic, what political and technological reforms might help fix the problem, and how we can empower the moderate majority to fight for its values.

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