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Is CCS a Clean Energy Technology?
I like your focus on demand because what I see as a lot of the hydrogen strategies that I've been asked to look at or that I've commented on. It's very easy to promote hydrogen production, but then when people start to talk about demanding heating which is so inefficient and complicated. So therefore the realistic pragmatic strategies will be very important. Let me just touch on another area where I think IEA has come in for criticism, it's again a very difficult it's part of this kind of there's nothing is perfect but carbon capture and storage. There's always a lot of carbon capture andstorage in the IEA scenarios, and there are those who say it's really just a way