In ciridian eight, never say about anything, i have lost it, but say, i have returned it. In chiridian 11, these statements by epictetus contradict what all moderns, those raised in the west at least, are taught from childhood. When a person views these statements from the perspective of modernity, they will likely ask, how can any one, past or present, assent to ideas like this? What kind of world view could possibly support such apparently odd and counter intuitive ideas? And therein lies the conundrum that moderns face when they first encounter the stoic.

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