How I Transitioned From a Hardware Startup to an Angel Investor

S.E. Cupp: I mean, how many people visited you down in Campbell, ironically, at personal training systems. That was such a fantastic startup that you had back in the back in the old days of the math. And I helped start alto's computer before that. Right. After we went public and sold that to the Acer group, then I was intrigued with the idea of getting involved in in software. So he invited me to go on a few boards with him. And actually start giving founders advice and I fell in love with itThat was 30 years ago. We're, you know, we've been investing in one company a week for 30 years now at S