Sanjay Gupta: I think a lot of crypto and AI, it's like the first time in 150 or 200 years that we've had to face this kind of a problem. He says just because there is a token out there that can accrue value doesn't mean it's set up to actually accrue value. Gupta: Where does the revenue come from for a layer two? Maybe you guys could give us a refresher on how rollups make money today.

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