The Key to Optimism and Pessimism

cass: I think, i think, dave, dave sort of started this podcast off talking about you as a hopeful person. In the book, you talk about gretta thunburg starting from a place of anger and just disappointment in the people who had created this problem. But i've actually seen, i mean, dave is funny, causeyou know, ou sort of characterized it is like, you know, eorism or pessimism. "I feel iam worshipping here at the altar of the premier platform for communicating about the future of food," he says.