I think AWS is maybe top five business move in the history of the world. Just the notion that they launched that out of a consumer internet company and became one of the most important enterprise companies, it's fairly unprecedented. And on recent podcast with Jonathan Haidt, he started to talk about the word anti-fragility but I think you were like how these younger people had crossed over from the campus into the corporate world. It's like your goal as an individual is to help deliver an experience for the individuals who are part of this organization. Right now we have a great team at Shoshaski; what if there was another way? We're very different than your team here

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